Subject	Welcome to my world, I'm not sure if I 100% believe the
Posted by	RAGTPZ on November 11, 2005 at 2:35 PM
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In Reply To	Second 555cc Injector failed in two months posted by HoracePinker on November 11, 2005 at 01:46 PM
Message	ethanol theory. I have lost 3 555 injectors and I purposefully avoid (and always have) fuel stations with ethanol fuel. Sunoco 94 is what my car gets exclusively as pump fuel and that station does not use ethanol. I haven't had a problem in quite a while though (knock on wood). Ethanol may contribute to the failure but I would not call it the only culprit. There are obviously other factors involved and the older style design is definitely one of them. If another one goes on me they are all getting replaced with upgrades in mind. Randy
Follow Ups	Second 555cc Injector failed in two months - HoracePinker 13:46:52 11/11/05 that does suck - maglito 13:59:27 11/11/05 ethanol??? doh!!!! - HoracePinker 14:05:36 11/11/05 yeah, farmers love it - maglito 14:45:47 11/11/05 Ethanol is a joke. That garbage should not be in our gas. (n/m) - Kenny 14:48:09 11/11/05 Big 2nd. (n/m) - Dustin 14:53:08 11/11/05 I really don't think it's the ethanol killing our injectors - ZLover4Life 14:50:43 11/11/05 That's hardly enough data to make any conclusions at all. (n/m) - Kenny 14:52:07 11/11/05 it may not be 100% conclusive - ZLover4Life 15:10:02 11/11/05 Or it is the more obvious random manufacturing error. - 300NASeattle 15:56:53 11/11/05 Do you have data to indicate ethanol is having an effect? (n/m) - spicyZ 15:21:00 11/11/05 Here are proponents of ethanol admitting it screws them up. - Kenny 15:32:31 11/11/05 Wow...great post. - SeedyROM 15:59:13 11/11/05 So it appears the problem is two fold. Faulty "insulation". - HoracePinker 16:07:22 11/11/05 not sure where to jump in here, but... - Zrevolver 15:35:44 11/11/05 Why do you guys have to ask for everything? - Kenny 15:40:16 11/11/05 are you the world's most menstrually cramped man or what? - Zrevolver 18:04:03 11/11/05 I love you too sweetheart <3. - Kenny 20:18:54 11/11/05 thanks pookie-kins, lol (n/m) - Zrevolver 03:03:18 11/12/05 Here's a news report with some possibilities.... - Dustin 15:43:36 11/11/05 link didnt work (n/m) - Zrevolver 18:06:55 11/11/05 2nd attempt - Dustin 19:12:00 11/11/05 Well is there anyone out there who has used a given type of - HoracePinker 14:56:49 11/11/05 I had a 555 die at 3,000 miles. Only used Sunoco 94 Octane. (n/m) - BummedOutMonkey 15:03:41 11/11/05 You do realize that it's all the same gas, regardless of - ENVYMYZ 16:23:04 11/11/05 Clogging up is not the problem...the resistance goes out of - Only1Z 19:38:54 11/11/05 I agree that that is usually the case - ENVYMYZ 09:46:51 11/12/05 How do you know? (n/m) - Only1Z 10:36:51 11/12/05 did I say anywhere that the gas itself was causing the issue - ZLover4Life 19:43:53 11/11/05 Save for new injectors? Well... - HoracePinker 14:52:32 11/11/05 you will need a new rail - maglito 14:59:43 11/11/05 you'll need - Adam (NoVA) 15:08:43 11/11/05 Man this is crazy, I so dont have thousands to spend right - HoracePinker 15:31:00 11/11/05 Thousands? - Kenny 15:35:16 11/11/05 Well perhaps not 1000s but atleast $1200 or so for the parts - HoracePinker 15:37:22 11/11/05 You also need to pop the timing belt and upper idler pulley - whitepearlz 16:06:42 11/11/05 Are you busy this coming spring? Wanna road trip to - zgene4 19:12:03 11/11/05 Sure thing. Shoot me an e-mail. Get it done in time - whitepearlz 22:22:45 11/11/05 here is what you need - yellowzxtt 16:30:11 11/11/05 any idea how ethanol can affect the injector's lifespan? (n/m) - ZEngineer 15:09:13 11/11/05 It decreases it. (n/m) - Kenny 15:12:45 11/11/05 why? (n/m) - ZEngineer 15:14:36 11/11/05 Jeez, you are lazy. - Kenny 15:31:25 11/11/05 So if I use gas with NO ethanol should I be ok? - HoracePinker 15:41:43 11/11/05 I doubt ethanol is the only additive that could... - Kenny 15:46:05 11/11/05 Well its not like everyone that has a 93 and earlier Z is .. - HoracePinker 15:50:10 11/11/05 It does seem to be more prevalent with the aftermarkets... - Kenny 15:53:28 11/11/05 MOTHER BITCHES!! Why couldnt they have gotten smart 3 years - HoracePinker 15:55:25 11/11/05 You're asking the wrong question. - Kenny 16:05:47 11/11/05 Well either way, this means I am definatly avoiding Ethanol - HoracePinker 16:09:19 11/11/05 yes, you're glossing over olefins - vorpalZ 23:24:32 11/11/05 Map for gasoline requirements... - Wingnuttzx 19:54:38 11/11/05 Search. Robo has something on it 11-1-2005 general. (n/m) - slowjohn 14:13:37 11/11/05 Welcome to my world, I'm not sure if I 100% believe the - RAGTPZ 14:35:51 11/11/05 witha car as nice and complete as urs, you should just - CollegeBoy 14:46:27 11/11/05 After replacing all those injectors, it's cheaper to convert (n/m) - Kenny 14:59:10 11/11/05 Yep - total cost for me to put 740s in the white car was - boileralum 15:01:53 11/11/05 I may do exactly that this winter as the plenum is going to - RAGTPZ 16:11:52 11/11/05 Are fuels with MTBE in that catagory? (n/m) - WAGGZ 15:06:08 11/11/05 No. (n/m) - Dustin 15:36:54 11/11/05 You sure they don't have any in it? - SeedyROM 15:59:39 11/11/05 Must be disclosed here, really only the cheap "minimart" gas - RAGTPZ 16:10:20 11/11/05 All the 94 around me turned to 93 :( (n/m) - Mickie 16:10:41 11/11/05 Sunoco at the corner of Montgomery Rd. & Galbraith Rd. still - RAGTPZ 16:12:57 11/11/05 Jesus Curt! You cant get a break can you?! - aztec300zx 15:22:33 11/11/05 Aparently not bro. I knew who you were :P.. You should come - HoracePinker 15:32:55 11/11/05 Nothing like grindin on the plenum! - aztec300zx 17:00:47 11/11/05 Not sure of the cylinder number but its the middle cylinder - HoracePinker 20:58:42 11/11/05 Ive heard of this many times yet I havent had problems(yet) (n/m) - WAGGZ 15:49:00 11/11/05 I've never had a problem with mine, and mine have about 50k - Moxie 16:26:22 11/11/05 im not getting anything but 94 sonoco from now on =( (n/m) - Z_SaMuRai 16:26:37 11/11/05 maybe another issue? - tyler@boostpro.net 18:11:15 11/11/05
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